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Asrai · Nov 16, 2010, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Took a trip to the deep and saw vendor selling Jadeite Summoning Stones... Is this actually useful ?

P_A_A · Nov 16, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20

It's as useful as the rest of the stones.

Carboplatin · Nov 16, 2010, 04:39 PM // 16:39

Gaki's are the only useful ones.

RedDog91 · Nov 16, 2010, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by Carboplatin

Gaki's are the only useful ones.

or siege turtle...
the siege turtle can unleash all hell in dungeons heavily populated by ranged enemies

Captain Bulldozer · Nov 16, 2010, 05:09 PM // 17:09

Some of the summoning stones are definitely worth using. I wouldn't say they are vital or anything, but they are a little more useful in general than minions or pets, except for the fact that you can only have 1 at a time.

Some of the more useful are:
Siege Turtles
Juggernaught (good for caster teams anyway)
Oni
Dream Rider
Most of the Celstials in my experience
Gaki (WTB pants for it though)
White Rabbit (hard to get)
Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh (also hard to get)

Still, the hour long summoning sickness tends to make these stones not great. It would have been nicer if they got rid of the summoning sickness and just kept the one at a time rule. Doesn't seem like that would be OP that way, but not my call.

Skye Marin · Nov 16, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Gaki is nice for support healing, but I find it strips my splinter weapon a bit more than I'd like.

I really like the Celestials. Looking forward to stocking up another couple dozen.

dasmitchies · Nov 16, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Think of summoning stones as a free skill slot. Just remember you have no control over them. I agree to tone down the summoning sickness.

gremlin · Nov 16, 2010, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Tend to agree about the summoning sickness.
Not a problem with more than one player as they can keep one summon up all the time.

Solo player has one an hour seems a little unfair as they are a great way of giving you an edge when you mess up or if a player disconnects mid mission.

Summoning stones are not essential but they add a little fun.

*Darcy* · Nov 16, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Jadeite SS gives you a siege turtle, which is one of the great ones.

Gennadios · Nov 16, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44

I'd love to hear somebody's reasoning for Oni being a useful summon. I rolled one out of a mysterious stone in FoW the other night in the middle of the forest and it didn't survive one encounter.

Anduin · Nov 16, 2010, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Don't forget the merchant summoning stone. Always great for those times when you get loaded down with a ton of crap to sell during a dungeon/long set of vanquishing.

Verene · Nov 16, 2010, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh (also hard to get)

The Black Beast is...well, a beast. I got that during a failed UW attempt (five of us, and half the group not with the right builds and no healers...don't ask. It was fun, though, and we still cleared most of it with few problems), and we were cracking up over how the damn Black Beast tanked and killed pretty much everything on the mountains while we ran.

Siege Turtle is awesome in terms of power, but I tend to get annoyed at how big it is, I have to zoom all the way out to be able to really see what's going on because it blocks so much of the screen.

Ailina · Nov 16, 2010, 08:23 PM // 20:23

The Frosty Summoning Stone doesn't get enough respect.
It can keep up daze, which is probably (one of) the most useful condition(s), on a whole bunch of enemies for a long time.

Go Snowman!

Captain Bulldozer · Nov 16, 2010, 10:01 PM // 22:01

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Originally Posted by Gennadios

I'd love to hear somebody's reasoning for Oni being a useful summon. I rolled one out of a mysterious stone in FoW the other night in the middle of the forest and it didn't survive one encounter.

Oni comes with the following abilities:

2 self heals (neither are great), 100% chance to double strike in melee, causes bleeding (good for teams requiring a condition...like discord for example), a KD skill, and a snare (short duration though). That's a lot of stuff for one summons. What it definitely lacks is blocking, but otherwise has a nice array of abilities. When I've used summoning stones in HM, the oni is one of the ones that tends to survive a bit longer than average... just my experience though. I doubt I would go to any special trouble to get an oni stone... but since they come from mysterious stones and you get them from the deep, they're not so hard to get. I personally would much rather see an oni come out of a mysterious stone than a grentch or a golem, etc.

One more I forgot to mention is the Smoke Phantom... those have some nice damage too, but its still elemental damage (which means it sucks in HM). And of course the merchants are useful, just not in combat

TheRaven · Nov 16, 2010, 10:11 PM // 22:11

I'll have to give my vote to the Merchant Summoning Stone. Most awesome summon ever!!!!!!

Swahnee · Nov 16, 2010, 10:53 PM // 22:53

The merchant summoning stone is the only one i pay attention to have when i'm going to do caravan vanquishes/dungeons. I rarely use the others so i can't say..

Star_Jewel · Nov 16, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by Captain Bulldozer

And of course the merchants are useful, just not in combat

I dunno.... The fact that he follows you around means he'll often get involved in combat anyway. He can be quite the badass at times.

dansamy · Nov 16, 2010, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by Star_Jewel

I dunno.... The fact that he follows you around means he'll often get involved in combat anyway. He can be quite the Leeroy at times.

Fixed it for ya!

Star_Jewel · Nov 16, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57

*LOL* True, true. When I first started using him, I'd freak out. "Dammit, Merchant, stop fighting everything!" But the little bugger can actually live through some abuse.

Captain Bulldozer · Nov 17, 2010, 12:03 AM // 00:03

I'd like the merchant summons better if, when he died, he dropped one of everything he normally sells

Nov 16, 2010, 03:27 PM // 15:27	#1
Asrai Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2010 Profession: N/Mo	Jadeite Summoning Stone Took a trip to the deep and saw vendor selling Jadeite Summoning Stones... Is this actually useful ?

Nov 16, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20	#2
P_A_A Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: Me/	It's as useful as the rest of the stones.

Nov 16, 2010, 04:39 PM // 16:39	#3
Carboplatin Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [PIG] Profession: W/A	Gaki's are the only useful ones.

Nov 16, 2010, 05:09 PM // 17:09	#5
Captain Bulldozer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Servants of the Dragon Flames [SODF]	Some of the summoning stones are definitely worth using. I wouldn't say they are vital or anything, but they are a little more useful in general than minions or pets, except for the fact that you can only have 1 at a time. Some of the more useful are: Siege Turtles Juggernaught (good for caster teams anyway) Oni Dream Rider Most of the Celstials in my experience Gaki (WTB pants for it though) White Rabbit (hard to get) Black Beast of Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh (also hard to get) Still, the hour long summoning sickness tends to make these stones not great. It would have been nicer if they got rid of the summoning sickness and just kept the one at a time rule. Doesn't seem like that would be OP that way, but not my call.

Nov 16, 2010, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#6
Skye Marin Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: E/A	Gaki is nice for support healing, but I find it strips my splinter weapon a bit more than I'd like. I really like the Celestials. Looking forward to stocking up another couple dozen.

Nov 16, 2010, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#7
dasmitchies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: W/P	Think of summoning stones as a free skill slot. Just remember you have no control over them. I agree to tone down the summoning sickness.

Nov 16, 2010, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#8
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	Tend to agree about the summoning sickness. Not a problem with more than one player as they can keep one summon up all the time. Solo player has one an hour seems a little unfair as they are a great way of giving you an edge when you mess up or if a player disconnects mid mission. Summoning stones are not essential but they add a little fun.

Nov 16, 2010, 06:29 PM // 18:29	#9
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Jadeite SS gives you a siege turtle, which is one of the great ones.

Nov 16, 2010, 06:44 PM // 18:44	#10
Gennadios Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2009 Profession: N/A	I'd love to hear somebody's reasoning for Oni being a useful summon. I rolled one out of a mysterious stone in FoW the other night in the middle of the forest and it didn't survive one encounter.

Nov 16, 2010, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#11
Anduin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Guild: Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge Profession: W/	Don't forget the merchant summoning stone. Always great for those times when you get loaded down with a ton of crap to sell during a dungeon/long set of vanquishing.

Nov 16, 2010, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#13
Ailina Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: Whats Prot Spirit [FoR] Profession: R/	The Frosty Summoning Stone doesn't get enough respect. It can keep up daze, which is probably (one of) the most useful condition(s), on a whole bunch of enemies for a long time. Go Snowman!

Nov 16, 2010, 10:11 PM // 22:11	#15
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	I'll have to give my vote to the Merchant Summoning Stone. Most awesome summon ever!!!!!!

Nov 16, 2010, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#16
Swahnee Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Italy Profession: Mo/	The merchant summoning stone is the only one i pay attention to have when i'm going to do caravan vanquishes/dungeons. I rarely use the others so i can't say..

Nov 16, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57	#19
Star_Jewel Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Denizen of Tyria since Feb. 2009	LOL True, true. When I first started using him, I'd freak out. "Dammit, Merchant, stop fighting everything!" But the little bugger can actually live through some abuse.

Nov 17, 2010, 12:03 AM // 00:03	#20
Captain Bulldozer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Servants of the Dragon Flames [SODF]	I'd like the merchant summons better if, when he died, he dropped one of everything he normally sells